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Veeam Oxford Style Debate - Episode 1

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Geoff Burke
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  • Veeam Vanguard
  • May 22, 2026

I did videos for that course but was not involved in the actual production of the course material so can’t really comment. I can only do so much 🤣and with all of this travelling I need time for my beauty sleep 😂, ok well sleep 🤐


Iams3le
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  • May 22, 2026

Hi ​@Madi.Cristil, before Geoff jumps in, I would argue that this exact certification question and explanation actually support the 'FOR' argument perfectly.

Look at the core requirement: 'Resilience requires architecture, immutability, and validation together.' Let’s run a simple thought experiment and take immutability entirely out of the picture.

Imagine an organization has every single defense-in-depth control active, but a breach still happens and their traditional backups are wiped out. What should they do next? ... negotiate, and pay the ransom probably!

The answer for most businesses! That is exactly why immutability is the foundational pillar of the entire recovery strategy. It is the one control that completely changes the outcome of a breach when everything else fails.

… I see where the the disagrement is coming from. The word only as ​pointed out in the recap. 

To wrap up my thoughts on this thread, I am glad we all agree that cyber resilience is not an 'either/or' proposition. It demands a robust, layered security strategy. No argument there.

But we must explicitly acknowledge the foundational role of immutability. While tools like MFA, segmentation, and EDR work tirelessly to prevent and detect attacks, immutability has one distinct, non-negotiable job: guaranteeing backup integrity when those front-line controls fail.


Geoff Burke
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  • Veeam Vanguard
  • May 22, 2026

I think we should all get big pay raises because we are all so smart, who disagrees? 😄


Andanet
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  • Veeam Legend
  • May 22, 2026

I think we should all get big pay raises because we are all so smart, who disagrees? 😄

Thant’s me! 😎


Madi.Cristil
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  • Principal Community Manager
  • May 22, 2026

Hi ​@Madi.Cristil, before Geoff jumps in, I would argue that this exact certification question and explanation actually support the 'FOR' argument perfectly.

Look at the core requirement: 'Resilience requires architecture, immutability, and validation together.' Let’s run a simple thought experiment and take immutability entirely out of the picture.

Imagine an organization has every single defense-in-depth control active, but a breach still happens and their traditional backups are wiped out. What should they do next? ... negotiate, and pay the ransom probably!

The answer for most businesses! That is exactly why immutability is the foundational pillar of the entire recovery strategy. It is the one control that completely changes the outcome of a breach when everything else fails.

… I see where the the disagrement is coming from. The word only as ​pointed out in the recap. 

To wrap up my thoughts on this thread, I am glad we all agree that cyber resilience is not an 'either/or' proposition. It demands a robust, layered security strategy. No argument there.

But we must explicitly acknowledge the foundational role of immutability. While tools like MFA, segmentation, and EDR work tirelessly to prevent and detect attacks, immutability has one distinct, non-negotiable job: guaranteeing backup integrity when those front-line controls fail.

@Iams3le really love how you keep bringing arguments ! 😉


Madi.Cristil
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  • Principal Community Manager
  • May 22, 2026

I did videos for that course but was not involved in the actual production of the course material so can’t really comment. I can only do so much 🤣and with all of this travelling I need time for my beauty sleep 😂, ok well sleep 🤐

Ah yes, I forgot about your beauty sleep 😂