Skip to main content

2022 Per Socket License End-of-Sale Announcement


victorwu
Forum|alt.badge.img+7

Starting July 1, 2022, Veeam will no longer sell per-socket licenses to new or existing customers for Veeam Backup & Replication, Veeam Availability Suite, and Veeam ONE.

For details, please check the link below.

https://www.veeam.com/migrate-to-vul.html

21 comments

Chris.Childerhose
Forum|alt.badge.img+21
  • Veeam Legend, Veeam Vanguard
  • 8402 comments
  • January 17, 2022

This should be interesting to see when that happens and reactions.


JMeixner
Forum|alt.badge.img+17
  • Veeam Vanguard
  • 2650 comments
  • January 17, 2022

:sunglasses: Then one of my customers who does not want to change from his socket licenses will have no choice anymore.


victorwu
Forum|alt.badge.img+7
  • Author
  • Veeam Vanguard
  • 373 comments
  • January 17, 2022
JMeixner wrote:

:sunglasses: Then one of my customers who does not want to change from his socket licenses will have no choice anymore.

Actually, most of my customers who do not want to change the socket licenses in my region.


JMeixner
Forum|alt.badge.img+17
  • Veeam Vanguard
  • 2650 comments
  • January 17, 2022

Most of my customers are using our hosting instance licenses. :sunglasses:


Chris.Childerhose
Forum|alt.badge.img+21
  • Veeam Legend, Veeam Vanguard
  • 8402 comments
  • January 17, 2022
JMeixner wrote:

Most of my customers are using our hosting instance licenses. :sunglasses:

Same with us as well.  We use Pulse to issue licenses to many clients. :smiley:


victorwu
Forum|alt.badge.img+7
  • Author
  • Veeam Vanguard
  • 373 comments
  • January 17, 2022
JMeixner wrote:

Most of my customers are using our hosting instance licenses. :sunglasses:

How to convince them to migrate the socket licenses to instance licenses in day one? :nerd:


JMeixner
Forum|alt.badge.img+17
  • Veeam Vanguard
  • 2650 comments
  • January 17, 2022
Chris.Childerhose wrote:
JMeixner wrote:

Most of my customers are using our hosting instance licenses. :sunglasses:

Same with us as well.  We use Pulse to issue licenses to many clients. :smiley:

Exactly :grin: This a very comfortable method to manage the licenses. I like it….


Chris.Childerhose
Forum|alt.badge.img+21
  • Veeam Legend, Veeam Vanguard
  • 8402 comments
  • January 17, 2022
JMeixner wrote:
Chris.Childerhose wrote:
JMeixner wrote:

Most of my customers are using our hosting instance licenses. :sunglasses:

Same with us as well.  We use Pulse to issue licenses to many clients. :smiley:

Exactly :grin: This a very comfortable method to manage the licenses. I like it….

And we are implementing VSPC v6 now which makes things even easier with the link to Pulse too. :grin:


JMeixner
Forum|alt.badge.img+17
  • Veeam Vanguard
  • 2650 comments
  • January 17, 2022
victorwu wrote:
JMeixner wrote:

Most of my customers are using our hosting instance licenses. :sunglasses:

How to convince them to migrate the socket licenses to instance licenses in day one? :nerd:

Most customers were glad that they had not to care about the backup software licenses by themselves. So it was not much convincing...


victorwu
Forum|alt.badge.img+7
  • Author
  • Veeam Vanguard
  • 373 comments
  • January 17, 2022
JMeixner wrote:
victorwu wrote:
JMeixner wrote:

Most of my customers are using our hosting instance licenses. :sunglasses:

How to convince them to migrate the socket licenses to instance licenses in day one? :nerd:

Most customers were glad that they had not to care about the backup software licenses by themselves. So it was not much convincing...

In my region, all customers care the number of backup software licenses, especially government and casino.


regnor
Forum|alt.badge.img+14
  • Veeam MVP
  • 1346 comments
  • January 17, 2022
JMeixner wrote:

:sunglasses: Then one of my customers who does not want to change from his socket licenses will have no choice anymore.

You don't have to migrate to VUL. Existing licenses can still be renewed, you just can't order new Socket licenses.

 


JMeixner
Forum|alt.badge.img+17
  • Veeam Vanguard
  • 2650 comments
  • January 17, 2022
regnor wrote:
JMeixner wrote:

:sunglasses: Then one of my customers who does not want to change from his socket licenses will have no choice anymore.

You don't have to migrate to VUL. Existing licenses can still be renewed, you just can't order new Socket licenses.

 

Yes, you are right.

This customer is growing and buys more licenses every year. And this will not be possible anymore…

Sorry for being not clear enough 😎


victorwu
Forum|alt.badge.img+7
  • Author
  • Veeam Vanguard
  • 373 comments
  • January 18, 2022
JMeixner wrote:
regnor wrote:
JMeixner wrote:

:sunglasses: Then one of my customers who does not want to change from his socket licenses will have no choice anymore.

You don't have to migrate to VUL. Existing licenses can still be renewed, you just can't order new Socket licenses.

 

Yes, you are right.

This customer is growing and buys more licenses every year. And this will not be possible anymore…

Sorry for being not clear enough 😎

That why, some customers do not want to change the instance licenses.


  • Not a newbie anymore
  • 5 comments
  • March 22, 2022

Apparently I’m the dumb one in the room.  We have 8 CPU socket perpetual licenses for B&R.  We have everything on-prem at 2 locations other than some immutable backups in Wasabi (primary and DR sites) and we have VM’s being replicated over our VPN.  Can someone help me understand what we gain or lose by switching to the new licensing model?  I’ve looked it over multiple times, but it just doesn’t make any sense to me.

 


JMeixner
Forum|alt.badge.img+17
  • Veeam Vanguard
  • 2650 comments
  • March 22, 2022

You can keep using your existing licenses. You just cannot buy new socket licenses if you need more of them. Then you have to switch to the instance licenses or VUL.


  • Not a newbie anymore
  • 5 comments
  • March 23, 2022
JMeixner wrote:

You can keep using your existing licenses. You just cannot buy new socket licenses if you need more of them. 

 

That part I did understand.  What I don’t understand is the pros/cons of switching.  It seems like it is a LOT more expensive (3x) to switch, and I would lose my perpetual CPU licenses.


JMeixner
Forum|alt.badge.img+17
  • Veeam Vanguard
  • 2650 comments
  • March 23, 2022
EdFromOhio wrote:
JMeixner wrote:

You can keep using your existing licenses. You just cannot buy new socket licenses if you need more of them. 

 

That part I did understand.  What I don’t understand is the pros/cons of switching.  It seems like it is a LOT more expensive (3x) to switch, and I would lose my perpetual CPU licenses.

This depends on your workload. If you have many small VMs per socket with a moderate amaount of sockets in the cluster the VUL or rental licenses can be more expensive than the socket licenses. If you have big VMs and many sockets in your cluster then the VUL and rental licenses are probably cheaper.


  • Not a newbie anymore
  • 5 comments
  • March 23, 2022
JMeixner wrote:
EdFromOhio wrote:
JMeixner wrote:

You can keep using your existing licenses. You just cannot buy new socket licenses if you need more of them. 

 

That part I did understand.  What I don’t understand is the pros/cons of switching.  It seems like it is a LOT more expensive (3x) to switch, and I would lose my perpetual CPU licenses.

This depends on your workload. If you have many small VMs per socket with a moderate amount of sockets in the cluster the VUL or rental licenses can be more expensive than the socket licenses. If you have big VMs and many sockets in your cluster then the VUL and rental licenses are probably cheaper.

Thanks.  We have a few hosts with many VM’s, so it sounds more advantageous to just stick with our socket license - all other things being equal.


JMeixner
Forum|alt.badge.img+17
  • Veeam Vanguard
  • 2650 comments
  • March 23, 2022

As long as you don't need more licenses after June 2022 and your support time you have bought is long enough for your environment you can stick with them.

If you need yomethinh new, then you will have to switch to one of the newer license models. And new functions or products will probably not be licensed with the old socket licenses.


  • New Here
  • 1 comment
  • August 30, 2022

Hi! If I use  Backup and Replication 11 and I change licence from Per Socket License to new concept. Can I need to change backup software?


JMeixner
Forum|alt.badge.img+17
  • Veeam Vanguard
  • 2650 comments
  • August 30, 2022

You can use the same Backup Software - VBR 11. But you will have to count your workloads (VMs, Agents, Plugins,  NAS Backups per 500GB)


Comment