Veeam V12 Launch x Community Hub Discussion Board


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V12 Launch Event banner. Launch date of February 14, 2023, is listed, along with the V12 and Veeam logos.

Hello Community,

Here’s a space for discussions on the V12 Launch Event! We would appreciate your thoughts on the event :) 
 

  • What V12 capability are you most anticipating?
  • How do you plan upgrades to Veeam Backup & Replication?
  • SNARK - Do you tell your boss you are upgrading?
  • How long do you wait before upgrading?
  • Do you set a test lab for upgrades?

     


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Here are my responses -

  • What V12 capability are you most anticipating? --- I think the direct to object along with the VeeaMover to migrate jobs/repos
  • How do you plan upgrades to Veeam Backup & Replication? --- Upgrades are done in our lab with documentation updates, diagram changes, etc. by myself before it gets to the Change Request stage for actual rollout
  • SNARK - Do you tell your boss you are upgrading? --- Hard not to as it goes through Change Control - LOL
  • How long do you wait before upgrading? --- Typically we take anywhere from 2-4 weeks as I run through the upgrade process several times to ensure things work as expected and allow all documentation to be updated including Visio diagrams, etc.
  • Do you set a test lab for upgrades? --- Yes we have a lab that we use for all upgrades including Veeam 😎

     

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Here’s my responses

 

  • What V12 capability are you most anticipating? - VeeamMover is a huge one and MFA
  • How do you plan upgrades to Veeam Backup & Replication? - It will be a phased approach across our client base as we have approx 50 VBR servers to complete
  • SNARK - Do you tell your boss you are upgrading? - Yes our environments are going RTM under change control.
  • How long do you wait before upgrading? - Client VBR servers we will typically wait a minimum of 2 weeks before planning unless any request the upgrade
  • Do you set a test lab for upgrades? - Yes
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I’m looking forward to the following:

  • Direct to Object, corollary to Cloud Protection Agents (the Veeam Repo can be very expensive to run in public cloud!)
  • Support for VBAWS v6 and VBAzure v5 for my cloud customers
  • Support for VB365 reporting
  • Improved support for Immutability Reports and Alerts
  • Backup Chain Improvements - so many reasons!
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Happy VEEAMalantines day everyone! 💚

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I saw a familiar cat on @Rick Vanover 👀

 

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  • What V12 capability are you most anticipating? Postgresql Explorer, Veeamover, new Oracle features.
  • How do you plan upgrades to Veeam Backup & Replication? We will wait for the first patch, update documentation before...
  • SNARK - Do you tell your boss you are upgrading? changes in production must be reported 😅
  • How long do you wait before upgrading? 2-4 weeks after GA, except there is a urge for a new feature.
  • Do you set a test lab for upgrades? yes, we will do when GA will be available!

we have made several updates since using Veeam, we had 0 problem and i hope this new update won’t break the positive chain!

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Oh yes, I forgot about PostgreSQL. 😎

This is a feature I am especially looking for, because we have several Veeam servers hitting the 10GB DB size limit and have expensive MS SQL licenses in use...

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An hour left!! 

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  • What V12 capability are you most anticipating?
  • How do you plan upgrades to Veeam Backup & Replication?
  • SNARK - Do you tell your boss you are upgrading?
  • How long do you wait before upgrading?
    • ->
  • Do you set a test lab for upgrades?

     

Text search game? 😋

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I saw a familiar cat on @Rick Vanover 👀

 

Sneak Alfred in when I can.

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  • What V12 capability are you most anticipating? - VeeamMover, MFA, Plugin Improvements
  • How do you plan upgrades to Veeam Backup & Replication? - We will wait some weeks before we will update our existing production environments. We have a test environment were we will test the upgrade and the database change. We are building two new environments at the moment and will build them with V12 right away.
  • SNARK - Do you tell your boss you are upgrading? - Yes all of our environments are under change control.
  • How long do you wait before upgrading? - We wait approximately 4 weeks before upgrading our production environments to a new major release.
  • Do you set a test lab for upgrades? - Yes

 

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Oh yes, I forgot about PostgreSQL. 😎

This is a feature I am especially looking for, because we have several Veeam servers hitting the 10GB DB size limit and have expensive MS SQL licenses in use...

Yes, definitely one of the top 5 on my list for sure too.  Getting away from SQL licensing will be a bonus.

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30 minutes to go!  Cannot wait for this event.

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Hi, my answers: 

  • What V12 capability are you most anticipating? : Direct to Object Storage, MFA, multiple protection Domain per job and Synthetic Full for Nutanix AHV, and finally Tape server on Linux. I’ve been personnaly waiting for that for so long …. (Hahaha)
  • How do you plan upgrades to Veeam Backup & Replication? i’ll follow our process by testing first in our Lab. A compatibility matrix will be built first with all the Apps we have.
  • SNARK - Do you tell your boss you are upgrading? since i’m the one supposed to validate the process, of course yes, i should be aware of any action 
  • How long do you wait before upgrading? the necessary time we can take for test, except when we drastically need a feature comming with the new release, which lead the process to a maximum of 2weeks
  • Do you set a test lab for upgrades? yes!
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  • What V12 capability are you most anticipating?
    • VeeaMover and MFA
  • How do you plan upgrades to Veeam Backup & Replication?
    • ​​​​​​​Depends on the degree of upgrade.  Most of the time there’s not a lot of need to plan unless there are other impacts such as using a feature that is being deprecated, additional infrastructure needs (such as expanding per-job backups to per-VM, etc).  Internally not a big deal.  For external clients, yes, planning is needed, and some of that stems from dependencies - clients that are hosting data on VCC vendors such as 11:11 will need to wait to update until those vendors are able to support the new version.
  • SNARK - Do you tell your boss you are upgrading?
    • ​​​​​​​Yes, but usually as it’s happening or right before just as a heads-up.
  • How long do you wait before upgrading?
    • ​​​​​​​Internally I update almost right away….I tend to trust Veeam updates more than updates from other vendors.  External clients - often it’ll be a couple weeks after the release though I don’t plan on waiting as long this time around.  Now that I can deploy upgrades via the Service Provider Console, assuming testing works well (I have one lab environment giving me a weird error), then those that can be updated sooner will be.  It’s a lot more manual and takes a lot more time when I have to do them one-by-one.
  • Do you set a test lab for upgrades?
    • ​​​​​​​I can.  Sometimes I don’t, sometimes I do - just depends on the current state of the lab and if I have the time as well as if there are certain features that I need to perform additional testing on.
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Same!  I was just trying to figure out how to put Veeam and Valentines together, but alas, Michael beat me to it.  :-)

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countdown started

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  • What V12 capability are you most anticipating?
    • → Direct Backup to Object Storage & MFA
  • How do you plan upgrades to Veeam Backup & Replication?
    • → Going through the What’s New document, release notes and the blog post from @Rick Vanover
  • SNARK - Do you tell your boss you are upgrading?
    • → We’ll inform all our customers
  • How long do you wait before upgrading?
    • 2-3 weeks
  • Do you set a test lab for upgrades?
    • →  yes, waiting for the RTM->GA patch

EDIT: Added my answers 😉

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Need an opinion…   Using Zoomit on Demos.. YAY or NAY?
 

 

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Need an opinion…   Using Zoomit on Demos.. YAY or NAY?
 

 

I personally like it as you can zoom in on what you are talking about so people can read it.  Depending on the broadcast vendor and screen resolutions we all know that does not work many times.  😋

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Cheers @Chris.Childerhose  → Especially as this one had a frame all the time (the V12 broadcast) and sometimes camera was on side 1/3rd. So that worked for this, so far only @kirststoner12 has taken the Zoomit Plunge!

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Aside from the new features, have you also taken a look at the "Ransomware Recovery Warranty"? https://www.veeam.com/products/ransomware-recovery-warranty-terms-conditions.html

I find it very interesting, also as a point to review and optimize on VBR installations all security best practices/check lists!

Yes, it is interesting.

But the prerequisites are rather high (200.000$ annual volume) and no VCSP...

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I’m going to wait 5 weeks since everyone else seems to wait 4 😀

 

Veeamover, direct to object will be huge. 

 

 

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Can the V12 Console connect to a V11 server?

We don’t want to upgrade the server first, then be stuck not being able to connect to V12 server from a V11 Console.

Thanks

Just tested this and the answer is no.  The v12 console will not connect to v11 server.

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My feedback @safiya  : 

@Rick Vanover : stay using the zoomit on the demo’s, I love it, it helps to focus, I love it, so keep using it 😎

  • What V12 capability are you most anticipating?

→ Veeamover

  • How do you plan upgrades to Veeam Backup & Replication?

→ VCC already upgraded, now all customers will be upgraded when engineers are onsite or engineers at the servicedesk doing it remotely

  • SNARK - Do you tell your boss you are upgrading?

​​​​​​​→ No, they totally have faith in me and let me do what has to be done

  • How long do you wait before upgrading?

→ the first day of GA for the VCC infra, afterwards customers will follow

  • Do you set a test lab for upgrades?

​​​​​​​​​​​​​​→ Yes, at home

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