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Timothy Dewin’s Famous RPS Tool is now Deprecated

MicoolPaul
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Hey everyone,

 

Tim announced earlier today that his famous RPS (Restore Point Simulator) tool is now deprecated.

 

If this name doesn’t mean anything to you, the URL likely will: https://rps.dewin.me.

 

For years this tool has been a must have for anyone working with data protection.

 

Now Veeam have an official tool (Fun Fact, some RPS code was used/referenced in the official tool so it lives on!). The official tool is available at https://calculator.veeam.com/vbr, it has been available for a little while now but today is the day Tim officially announced the deprecation of the project.

 

As such please remember to use the official tool as part of your sizing efforts moving forwards.

 

And finally, thanks Tim for all the times your tool has helped us out!

Michael Paul - #VeeamLegend | #VeeamVanguard | Veeam Certified Architect | VMware vExpert | https://micoolpaul.com | Twitter: @MicoolPaul | Mastodon: @micoolpaul@masto.nu | Bluesky: @micoolpaul.bsky.social

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Rick Vanover
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Hey guys - this is a very good topic to discuss here. A few tings @JMeixner, @MicoolPaul and others on this:

 

  • Tim has done an amazing job with this resource.  I think it’s fair to say that Tim’s blog hosted the most used social-share resource out there.
  • We need to have these types of resources official-looking and standardized.
  • Product Management was involved in the new version of the tool.
  • There was also some fragmentation - Tim’s tool had things the official one didn’t - and reverse. 

But let met pique your interest above all that this gives a way to see what people want to do and paves the way for quick changes should new story logic be implemented. 

That being said - if there is some feedback to raise, bring it up and I’ll take to the owners!

Twitter @RickVanover | Email: rick.vanover@veeam.com
Mildur
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Thanks @MicoolPaul 

I have already used it today without knowing the other is deprecated.

A good thing is, that both „official“ calculators (vbo365 and now vbr) can be reached over this page:

https://calculator.veeam.com

 

 

Product Management Analyst @ Veeam Software
J
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imho must haves for new calc:

  • chain breakdown/visualization. This just makes the output way more understandable and in some extent verifiable
  • some way to export a calculation. The URL export was very handy in RPS/RPC

nice to have:

  • immutable backups implications visualized and enforced when checked

 

JMeixner
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The controls are nice and clearly arranged in the official calculator. I think this is better and more clear than in Tim's tool.

But I agree with @regnor that the overview about the restore points was much better in Tim's tool.

Perhaps this will be a future addition to the official tool. 😎

Jochen (Joe) Meixner | Veeam Vanguard 2024 | Veeam Legend 2021 - 2023 | Veeam Certified Architect (VMCA) 2022 | Twitter: @JoMeix | BlueSky: @jmeixner.bsky.social
regnor
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What is missing in the official tool is the visualization of the restore points. Tim's tool was great if you needed to understand how retention policies were working; I've used it many time in workshops or if I needed to explain it to customers.

Max M. | Systems Engineer @Veeam | VMCE/VMCA | former Legend & Vanguard
marcofabbri
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Thanks @MicoolPaul 

I have already used it today without knowing the other is deprecated.

A good thing is, that both „official“ calculators (vbo365 and now vbr) can be reached over this page:

https://calculator.veeam.com

 

 

Thanks @Mildur and @MicoolPaul , super useful share!!

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vNote42
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I guess everyone using Veeam used this tool before. I really like the table of the full and incremental restore point. With it it was easy to explain a customer who (forever) incremental / with synthetic/active full works. I do not see this feature in the official version any more :rolling_eyes:

Wolfgang | vnote42.net | @vNote42
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The biggest issue for me is that the results from both calculators are different using the same values, see the posts here: https://forums.veeam.com/veeam-backup-replication-f2/veeam-backup-capacity-calculator-vs-rps-t78718.html#p441021

Chris.Childerhose
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Thanks @MicoolPaul 

I have already used it today without knowing the other is deprecated.

A good thing is, that both „official“ calculators (vbo365 and now vbr) can be reached over this page:

https://calculator.veram.com

 

 

Yeah this is great.  Might want to fix the url though Mildur. 😉

Chris Childerhose - VMCA2022 | VMCE2023 | Veeam Vanguard 7* | Veeam Legend 3* | vExpert 5* | VCAP-DCV/VCP-DCV | Object First Ace | Cisco Champion | Twitter: @cchilderhose | Blog Site – https://just-virtualization.tech
Mildur
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Oops! :)
Thanks, edited.

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Mildur
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@MicoolPaul @JMeixner 

The author of the calculator has done a statement in the R&D Forums:

https://forums.veeam.com/post441021.html#p441021

Please read the entire statement in the forum directly :)

 

Product Management Analyst @ Veeam Software
Stabz
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Time to say goodbye to this one too: http://rps.dewin.me/rpc/

 

Philippe DUPUIS |Veeam Certified Engineer | https://original-network.com/
MicoolPaul
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There’s currently not a home in the R&D forums for such requests as far as I’m aware is there?

 

@Rick Vanover is there a good Avenue to give feedback on the other tools etc that Veeam supply outside of the core paid for products?

Michael Paul - #VeeamLegend | #VeeamVanguard | Veeam Certified Architect | VMware vExpert | https://micoolpaul.com | Twitter: @MicoolPaul | Mastodon: @micoolpaul@masto.nu | Bluesky: @micoolpaul.bsky.social
MicoolPaul
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I guess everyone using Veeam used this tool before. I really like the table of the full and incremental restore point. With it it was easy to explain a customer who (forever) incremental / with synthetic/active full works. I do not see this feature in the official version any more :rolling_eyes:

Yep I’d always export with the canvas option so I’ve got a PNG to share/annotate easily.

Michael Paul - #VeeamLegend | #VeeamVanguard | Veeam Certified Architect | VMware vExpert | https://micoolpaul.com | Twitter: @MicoolPaul | Mastodon: @micoolpaul@masto.nu | Bluesky: @micoolpaul.bsky.social
JMeixner
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:sunglasses: Let’s wait if @Rick Vanover can say something to this topic and has a contact to address our feedback...

Jochen (Joe) Meixner | Veeam Vanguard 2024 | Veeam Legend 2021 - 2023 | Veeam Certified Architect (VMCA) 2022 | Twitter: @JoMeix | BlueSky: @jmeixner.bsky.social
Chris.Childerhose
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imho must haves for new calc:

  • chain breakdown/visualization. This just makes the output way more understandable and in some extent verifiable
  • some way to export a calculation. The URL export was very handy in RPS/RPC

nice to have:

  • immutable backups implications visualized and enforced when checked

 

These are really good suggestions

Chris Childerhose - VMCA2022 | VMCE2023 | Veeam Vanguard 7* | Veeam Legend 3* | vExpert 5* | VCAP-DCV/VCP-DCV | Object First Ace | Cisco Champion | Twitter: @cchilderhose | Blog Site – https://just-virtualization.tech
BertrandFR
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imho must haves for new calc:

  • chain breakdown/visualization. This just makes the output way more understandable and in some extent verifiable
  • some way to export a calculation. The URL export was very handy in RPS/RPC

nice to have:

  • immutable backups implications visualized and enforced when checked

 

+1 nothing to add

Geoff Burke
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imho must haves for new calc:

  • chain breakdown/visualization. This just makes the output way more understandable and in some extent verifiable
  • some way to export a calculation. The URL export was very handy in RPS/RPC

nice to have:

  • immutable backups implications visualized and enforced when checked

 

+1 nothing to add

++2

VMCA2022, VMCE2023, CKA, CKAD, KCNA, LFCS, PCA,TARS
DaveR_NZ
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I’d love to be able to try out the VBR one, unfortunately “Too Many Redirects” message from every browser, site and internet connection I’ve tried.

regnor
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Good idea, that could work @Mildur 😊

Max M. | Systems Engineer @Veeam | VMCE/VMCA | former Legend & Vanguard
I
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Which means new is coming soon :) 

Thanks @MicoolPaul for the update !

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victorwu
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Thanks @MicoolPaul 

I have already used it today without knowing the other is deprecated.

A good thing is, that both „official“ calculators (vbo365 and now vbr) can be reached over this page:

https://calculator.veeam.com

 

 

This is a great tool!

Victor Wu
Chris.Childerhose
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I guess everyone using Veeam used this tool before. I really like the table of the full and incremental restore point. With it it was easy to explain a customer who (forever) incremental / with synthetic/active full works. I do not see this feature in the official version any more :rolling_eyes:

Yep I’d always export with the canvas option so I’ve got a PNG to share/annotate easily.

Yeah that was one of the best parts of this tool. Sad to see it not there now. 😞

Chris Childerhose - VMCA2022 | VMCE2023 | Veeam Vanguard 7* | Veeam Legend 3* | vExpert 5* | VCAP-DCV/VCP-DCV | Object First Ace | Cisco Champion | Twitter: @cchilderhose | Blog Site – https://just-virtualization.tech
regnor
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I’d love to be able to try out the VBR one, unfortunately “Too Many Redirects” message from every browser, site and internet connection I’ve tried.

I've posted it to the R&D forums and update this topic when I receive a feedback.

Max M. | Systems Engineer @Veeam | VMCE/VMCA | former Legend & Vanguard
Mildur
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Me too, you can use Veeam Support to create a support case for the veeam website to get the issue to the right audience. :-)

 

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