Timothy Dewin’s Famous RPS Tool is now Deprecated


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Hey everyone,

 

Tim announced earlier today that his famous RPS (Restore Point Simulator) tool is now deprecated.

 

If this name doesn’t mean anything to you, the URL likely will: https://rps.dewin.me.

 

For years this tool has been a must have for anyone working with data protection.

 

Now Veeam have an official tool (Fun Fact, some RPS code was used/referenced in the official tool so it lives on!). The official tool is available at https://calculator.veeam.com/vbr, it has been available for a little while now but today is the day Tim officially announced the deprecation of the project.

 

As such please remember to use the official tool as part of your sizing efforts moving forwards.

 

And finally, thanks Tim for all the times your tool has helped us out!


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Thanks @MicoolPaul 

I have already used it today without knowing the other is deprecated.

A good thing is, that both „official“ calculators (vbo365 and now vbr) can be reached over this page:

https://calculator.veeam.com

 

 

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Thanks @MicoolPaul 

I have already used it today without knowing the other is deprecated.

A good thing is, that both „official“ calculators (vbo365 and now vbr) can be reached over this page:

https://calculator.veram.com

 

 

Yeah this is great.  Might want to fix the url though Mildur. 😉

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Oops! :)
Thanks, edited.

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What is missing in the official tool is the visualization of the restore points. Tim's tool was great if you needed to understand how retention policies were working; I've used it many time in workshops or if I needed to explain it to customers.

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The controls are nice and clearly arranged in the official calculator. I think this is better and more clear than in Tim's tool.

But I agree with @regnor that the overview about the restore points was much better in Tim's tool.

Perhaps this will be a future addition to the official tool. 😎

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There’s currently not a home in the R&D forums for such requests as far as I’m aware is there?

 

@Rick Vanover is there a good Avenue to give feedback on the other tools etc that Veeam supply outside of the core paid for products?

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Thanks @MicoolPaul 

I have already used it today without knowing the other is deprecated.

A good thing is, that both „official“ calculators (vbo365 and now vbr) can be reached over this page:

https://calculator.veeam.com

 

 

Thanks @Mildur and @MicoolPaul , super useful share!!

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I guess everyone using Veeam used this tool before. I really like the table of the full and incremental restore point. With it it was easy to explain a customer who (forever) incremental / with synthetic/active full works. I do not see this feature in the official version any more :rolling_eyes:

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I guess everyone using Veeam used this tool before. I really like the table of the full and incremental restore point. With it it was easy to explain a customer who (forever) incremental / with synthetic/active full works. I do not see this feature in the official version any more :rolling_eyes:

Yep I’d always export with the canvas option so I’ve got a PNG to share/annotate easily.

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I guess everyone using Veeam used this tool before. I really like the table of the full and incremental restore point. With it it was easy to explain a customer who (forever) incremental / with synthetic/active full works. I do not see this feature in the official version any more :rolling_eyes:

Yep I’d always export with the canvas option so I’ve got a PNG to share/annotate easily.

Yeah that was one of the best parts of this tool. Sad to see it not there now. 😞

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:sunglasses: Let’s wait if @Rick Vanover can say something to this topic and has a contact to address our feedback...

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@MicoolPaul @JMeixner 

The author of the calculator has done a statement in the R&D Forums:

https://forums.veeam.com/post441021.html#p441021

Please read the entire statement in the forum directly :)

 

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Hey guys - this is a very good topic to discuss here. A few tings @JMeixner, @MicoolPaul and others on this:

 

  • Tim has done an amazing job with this resource.  I think it’s fair to say that Tim’s blog hosted the most used social-share resource out there.
  • We need to have these types of resources official-looking and standardized.
  • Product Management was involved in the new version of the tool.
  • There was also some fragmentation - Tim’s tool had things the official one didn’t - and reverse. 

But let met pique your interest above all that this gives a way to see what people want to do and paves the way for quick changes should new story logic be implemented. 

That being said - if there is some feedback to raise, bring it up and I’ll take to the owners!

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imho must haves for new calc:

  • chain breakdown/visualization. This just makes the output way more understandable and in some extent verifiable
  • some way to export a calculation. The URL export was very handy in RPS/RPC

nice to have:

  • immutable backups implications visualized and enforced when checked

 

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imho must haves for new calc:

  • chain breakdown/visualization. This just makes the output way more understandable and in some extent verifiable
  • some way to export a calculation. The URL export was very handy in RPS/RPC

nice to have:

  • immutable backups implications visualized and enforced when checked

 

These are really good suggestions

The biggest issue for me is that the results from both calculators are different using the same values, see the posts here: https://forums.veeam.com/veeam-backup-replication-f2/veeam-backup-capacity-calculator-vs-rps-t78718.html#p441021

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imho must haves for new calc:

  • chain breakdown/visualization. This just makes the output way more understandable and in some extent verifiable
  • some way to export a calculation. The URL export was very handy in RPS/RPC

nice to have:

  • immutable backups implications visualized and enforced when checked

 

+1 nothing to add

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imho must haves for new calc:

  • chain breakdown/visualization. This just makes the output way more understandable and in some extent verifiable
  • some way to export a calculation. The URL export was very handy in RPS/RPC

nice to have:

  • immutable backups implications visualized and enforced when checked

 

+1 nothing to add

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The biggest issue for me is that the results from both calculators are different using the same values, see the posts here: https://forums.veeam.com/veeam-backup-replication-f2/veeam-backup-capacity-calculator-vs-rps-t78718.html#p441021

That is interesting for sure.  Hopefully based on suggestions they will update the new one.

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Which means new is coming soon :) 

Thanks @MicoolPaul for the update !

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Thanks @MicoolPaul 

I have already used it today without knowing the other is deprecated.

A good thing is, that both „official“ calculators (vbo365 and now vbr) can be reached over this page:

https://calculator.veeam.com

 

 

This is a great tool!

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Time to say goodbye to this one too: http://rps.dewin.me/rpc/

 

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I’d love to be able to try out the VBR one, unfortunately “Too Many Redirects” message from every browser, site and internet connection I’ve tried.

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I’d love to be able to try out the VBR one, unfortunately “Too Many Redirects” message from every browser, site and internet connection I’ve tried.

I've posted it to the R&D forums and update this topic when I receive a feedback.

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Me too, you can use Veeam Support to create a support case for the veeam website to get the issue to the right audience. :-)

 

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