Hi Everyone,
I use vCenter to manage esxi hosts. I am planning to update vCenter. When updating vCenter, I have to configure remove vCenter HA and delete passive,witness VM then update vCenter. i have configured job backup for vm vCenter on Veeam Backup. I have a question, if the vcenter update process fails, I restore the vm vcenter, will it return to its original state including the configured vcenter HA and the passive and witness VM?
Thanks a lot.
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Yes, it's good you remove the vCenter HA before updating.
Best way to do what you want imo is simply to log onto the ESXi Host vCenter is on & take a snapshot; then I'd also take an ad hoc Veeam backup. After both are done then perform your vCenter update. The snap will ensure your vCenter is good right at the time before upgrade. If the update doesn't go well you can simply revert to the snapshot you took. It's quicker than a VM restore.
To answer your question about vCenter HA. No...Veeam doesn't restore all of that...just the VM.
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If you want to restore your entire HA configuration you need to back up all the servers at around the same time for best results. Backing up the vCenter appliance was deprecated in vCenter 7.0 IIRC, can’t recall if it’s supported by Broadcom at all as of v8. You are supposed to use the backup process within vCenter itself.
That being said, if you were to shut down all the vCenter VMs and back them up, you could quite safely restore these without much risk.
If you need to perform a restore and want your HA config etc to be reverted you must restore all nodes at the same time, from the same point in time
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I log In to vCenter Server by Using the vSphere Client, I think when I config vCenter HA on GUI, it means on the vCenter virtual machine is also configured. So when I restore vCenter VM by Veeam, it stills the configuration. Is that right ?
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I log In to vCenter Server by Using the vSphere Client, I think when I config vCenter HA on GUI, it means on the vCenter virtual machine is also configured. So when I restore vCenter VM by Veeam, it stills the configuration. Is that right ?
Your problem will be if you don’t restore all nodes from the same point in time.
Let’s look at the 3 nodes:
1x active
1x passive
1x witness
The idea of passive is to know what the active server configuration was and continue to provide those same services with the same configuration.
So, when you remove vCenter HA, you destroy the HA configuration on all 3 nodes.
If you only your active node for example, it will try to continue to send HA configs to the passive and talk to the witness, but they will reject these messages because they’re not in a HA group with the active node anymore.
But, if you restore all 3 nodes to the point in time they were a HA group, all will continue as normal from this perspective
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If you take the backup of vCenter at the time it's configured...yes, it'll still have that configuration. I've not heard of anyone backing up all 3 nodes in a vCenter HA...but as
It would be best if you had a test environment to test this process out before attempting on production. But, if your upgrade goes fine then vCenter restore is moot.
If you want to restore your entire HA configuration you need to back up all the servers at around the same time for best results. Backing up the vCenter appliance was deprecated in vCenter 7.0 IIRC, can’t recall if it’s supported by Broadcom at all as of v8. You are supposed to use the backup process within vCenter itself.
That being said, if you were to shut down all the vCenter VMs and back them up, you could quite safely restore these without much risk.
If you need to perform a restore and want your HA config etc to be reverted you must restore all nodes at the same time, from the same point in time
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If you want to restore your entire HA configuration you need to back up all the servers at around the same time for best results. Backing up the vCenter appliance was deprecated in vCenter 7.0 IIRC, can’t recall if it’s supported by Broadcom at all as of v8. You are supposed to use the backup process within vCenter itself.
That being said, if you were to shut down all the vCenter VMs and back them up, you could quite safely restore these without much risk.
If you need to perform a restore and want your HA config etc to be reverted you must restore all nodes at the same time, from the same point in time
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It won’t, you’ve got to back up all of them and restore them all. Again, VM backup is deprecated for vCenter anyway, VMware want you to use their native backup of configuration to a file share and restore that to a new vCenter appliance if you have problems
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Since I haven't really heard about this being done I did a little searching & saw a 5yr old Forums post about VC HA not really being supported by Veeam.
https://forums.veeam.com/vmware-vsphere-f24/vcenter-high-availability-t60642.html
But, a couple comments suggest if you were to try it to back up all 3 nodes as Michael suggested. So just take that with a grain of salt.
Veeam also has a KB on backing up VC (doesn't mention with HA), but on it they suggest the vSphere way of backup/restore. Anyway, just a few things to keep in mind.
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If you want to restore your entire HA configuration you need to back up all the servers at around the same time for best results. Backing up the vCenter appliance was deprecated in vCenter 7.0 IIRC, can’t recall if it’s supported by Broadcom at all as of v8. You are supposed to use the backup process within vCenter itself.
That being said, if you were to shut down all the vCenter VMs and back them up, you could quite safely restore these without much risk.
If you need to perform a restore and want your HA config etc to be reverted you must restore all nodes at the same time, from the same point in time
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It won’t, you’ve got to back up all of them and restore them all. Again, VM backup is deprecated for vCenter anyway, VMware want you to use their native backup of configuration to a file share and restore that to a new vCenter appliance if you have problems
This is the better option with vCenter using the built-in backup to file. It makes restores better as I don't backup vCenter VMs any more.
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If you have multisite, power down the vCenters at both sites and then take backups at the same time.
VMware/Brodcom recommend going into port 5480 and actually running a backup. You should probably do both and have that one scheduled.
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