Hi Folks,
I just saw on LinkedIn
Another VMWARE alternative verge.io?
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+21
Hmmm...that one seems interesting to look at. Will keep an eye on it for sure and other posts.
Userlevel 7
+19
Uhh..not heard of it. Ugh...I can’t test them all out! 😂
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+22
Uhh..not heard of it. Ugh...I can’t test them all out! 😂
That might become a lucrative side kick, testing all of these out then providing consulting services :)
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+19
“That might become a lucrative side kick, testing all of these out then providing consulting services :) “
Umm..great idea! 🤣
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+6
Saw that one live one time at a place we both know.
Suffice it to say, it lacked a lot of features (at least back then). It may be better now, I haven’t re-evaluated. It died on the vine at that place we both know because no one knew it and it didn’t live up to its hype.
As I said in a post a while back - its less about the hypervisor and more about the ecosystem of third party vendors and skilled people in the industry that will support that hypervisor.
Its all fun and games to use something else until you can’t back anything up or find someone who actually knows how to fix it when it breaks.
I’m eager to see how this all shakes out.
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Saw that one live one time at a place we both know.
Suffice it to say, it lacked a lot of features (at least back then). It may be better now, I haven’t re-evaluated. It died on the vine at that place we both know because no one knew it and it didn’t live up to its hype.
As I said in a post a while back - its less about the hypervisor and more about the ecosystem of third party vendors and skilled people in the industry that will support that hypervisor.
Its all fun and games to use something else until you can’t back anything up or find someone who actually knows how to fix it when it breaks.
I’m eager to see how this all shakes out.
Now where could that have been? :) Agreed fully, VMware was/is pretty unique, the full package. Some folks are going to just learn to do without if they can’t afford it. Still blows my mind the way this is happening. I am admittedly not Mr. Business but in the long run how can Broadcom’s strategy make sense.
Userlevel 7
+6
Saw that one live one time at a place we both know.
Suffice it to say, it lacked a lot of features (at least back then). It may be better now, I haven’t re-evaluated. It died on the vine at that place we both know because no one knew it and it didn’t live up to its hype.
As I said in a post a while back - its less about the hypervisor and more about the ecosystem of third party vendors and skilled people in the industry that will support that hypervisor.
Its all fun and games to use something else until you can’t back anything up or find someone who actually knows how to fix it when it breaks.
I’m eager to see how this all shakes out.
Now where could that have been? :) Agreed fully, VMware was/is pretty unique, the full package. Some folks are going to just learn to do without if they can’t afford it. Still blows my mind the way this is happening. I am admittedly not Mr. Business but in the long run how can Broadcom’s strategy make sense.
Geoff, we barely even got into the meat of the shenanigans we could have discussed!
I don’t think this Broadcom transition will end up being as bad as many are worried it will turn out. Its the communication right now that’s killing Broadcom, there are so many changes coming in rapid succession that its thrown people into a panic.
I’m trying to get a quick, informal VMUG event set up out here in Calgary with a Broadcom representative to talk about the licensing changes. I think there is a lot of confusion and anger out there that can be worked out over a few beers. At least, I hope so!
Userlevel 7
+22
Saw that one live one time at a place we both know.
Suffice it to say, it lacked a lot of features (at least back then). It may be better now, I haven’t re-evaluated. It died on the vine at that place we both know because no one knew it and it didn’t live up to its hype.
As I said in a post a while back - its less about the hypervisor and more about the ecosystem of third party vendors and skilled people in the industry that will support that hypervisor.
Its all fun and games to use something else until you can’t back anything up or find someone who actually knows how to fix it when it breaks.
I’m eager to see how this all shakes out.
Now where could that have been? :) Agreed fully, VMware was/is pretty unique, the full package. Some folks are going to just learn to do without if they can’t afford it. Still blows my mind the way this is happening. I am admittedly not Mr. Business but in the long run how can Broadcom’s strategy make sense.
Geoff, we barely even got into the meat of the shenanigans we could have discussed!
I don’t think this Broadcom transition will end up being as bad as many are worried it will turn out. Its the communication right now that’s killing Broadcom, there are so many changes coming in rapid succession that its thrown people into a panic.
I’m trying to get a quick, informal VMUG event set up out here in Calgary with a Broadcom representative to talk about the licensing changes. I think there is a lot of confusion and anger out there that can be worked out over a few beers. At least, I hope so!
That is a great idea. Please share anything you hear. They also might back track on some decisions too if they find that it is counter productive.
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Seems pretty cool, but I’d need a lot of time before I fully trust anything else. Smart of them to start marketing heavy right now though :)
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Hello
I have been running Verge.IO for about one year now, without any issues what so ever. I have been doing a number of upgrades without any issues at all. I’m pretty amazed how well it works and how simple it is to manage. Replication between clusters is really simple and can be done both in a pull or push model.
The UI is really nice to work with and very responsive, but I think Verge.IO could do some more work to polish it. But for me it is fine.
Performance wise I do not have any issues, but to be honest my workload is currently not that heavy and nor do I plan for heavy load either.
When I have time over I will probably test to see how well it will dedup Veeam backups. My expectation here is pretty low.
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I’m afraid the problem with all those alternatives will be lack of support from other software vendors, like SAP or Oracle….. Thoughts welcome
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I’m afraid the problem with all those alternatives will be lack of support from other software vendors, like SAP or Oracle….. Thoughts welcome
Well I would assume that SAP or Oracle supports KVM.
I also don't think these are the target customers for VergeIO. Usually these are not the target customers for startup vendors. If you look at Nutanix they started out with just VDI workloads, even if they were using ESXi as hypervisor.
If I can cover 80% of my traditional workload with something else than VMware I have saved quite a lot of money in a large VMware deployment.
There is a non-Oracle/SAP world out there.
But thanks for the response ;-)
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I’m afraid the problem with all those alternatives will be lack of support from other software vendors, like SAP or Oracle….. Thoughts welcome
Well I would assume that SAP or Oracle supports KVM.
I also don't think these are the target customers for VergeIO. Usually these are not the target customers for startup vendors. If you look at Nutanix they started out with just VDI workloads, even if they were using ESXi as hypervisor.
If I can cover 80% of my traditional workload with something else than VMware I have saved quite a lot of money in a large VMware deployment.
There is a non-Oracle/SAP world out there.
But thanks for the response ;-)
I know not everybody is SAP nor Oracle customer, but to those vendors, you can add Microsoft (can anybody avoid running any MS loads? Either enterprise or SMB) and many other options. I remember old times when we started deploying loads on ESX and Microsoft asked to reproduce any issue on physical env prior to open a support request. What a mess!!, at this point I’m afraid that running loads on community supported hyper visors ca you lead to such this situation.
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Hello javichumellamo
I’m sorry I really dont see your point. The issues back when virtualization was a new thing is something totally different from while today it is commodity. VergeIO is basically KVM but with ease of management and the same is true for Nutanix AHV with some exceptions.
Either way the point of my initial post was to answer Geoff Burkes question and not battle beetween hypervisors or vendors. I could not care less, a hypervisor is after all just a hypervisor.
Regards
:-)
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I’m afraid the problem with all those alternatives will be lack of support from other software vendors, like SAP or Oracle….. Thoughts welcome
Sorry forgot to highlight this. I believe both SAP and Oracle supports KVM but in regards to other software vendors I would argue that they have matured and understand that the hypervisor in it self is not relevant.
But of cource this is up to one self to decide.
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Hello javichumellamo
I’m sorry I really dont see your point. The issues back when virtualization was a new thing is something totally different from while today it is commodity. VergeIO is basically KVM but with ease of management and the same is true for Nutanix AHV with some exceptions.
Either way the point of my initial post was to answer Geoff Burkes question and not battle beetween hypervisors or vendors. I could not care less, a hypervisor is after all just a hypervisor.
Regards
:-)
100% agree. Nowadays a hypervisor is a commodity but not all software vendors will agree with us. That’s the point, in the case of moving out of the industry standard (vmware) you should check with your software vendors if they will support you on that new platform,
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Hello
I have been running Verge.IO for about one year now, without any issues what so ever. I have been doing a number of upgrades without any issues at all. I’m pretty amazed how well it works and how simple it is to manage. Replication between clusters is really simple and can be done both in a pull or push model.
The UI is really nice to work with and very responsive, but I think Verge.IO could do some more work to polish it. But for me it is fine.
Performance wise I do not have any issues, but to be honest my workload is currently not that heavy and nor do I plan for heavy load either.
When I have time over I will probably test to see how well it will dedup Veeam backups. My expectation here is pretty low.
Just as an update here.I have tested to stor Nakivo backups on Verge.IO and it dedups pretty darn well, so my expectation for the Veeam test has now increased.
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