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I was wondering if anyone else does this.

When we delete a VM, I often have someone come ask me where it was 6 months to a year later and sometimes there is something unnoticed that is broken. 

Due to the amount of storage we use here (PB’s) I tend to not want to keep all these old VM’s powered off, or even on the Veeam SANs as they take up a ton of space for something that most likely isn’t needed.

 

To resolve this I created a media pool on both tape libraries that has a retention of 2 years. When I power the VM off for the final time I do a Veeam zip, then add it to a file to tape job at both sites.

In the file to tape job I just grab the VBK from the repo and then can remove the Veeam ZIP when it’s done.  Even though it’s not 3-2-1 technically the VM’s are requested to be deleted anyways. If I lost them it wouldn’t be critical. Having them on tape is cheap, and people are very happy when they can get their data.

 

 

 

 

 

 

If you charge for the service, why not good for you, but it is abnormal if the business application uses the backup as an archive. There is a small problem of application architecture.

So the IT department and team that does the backups, file servers, storage, servers shouldn’t be in charge of the data archives and retention? Even though we use the backup software of Veeam, TSM and cloud storage, and no one else even has credentials to do so?

We are not an MSP, this is our data. The law is that we have to keep it. we are paying for this, not charging. 

 

It’s quite normal in our circumstances to have crazy retention. 

 

I just want it off prod as easy as possible and into Wasabi and tape as the chances of needed to restore it get smaller every year. It still doesn’t change it’s mandated by law. 

 

 

 

OK, my experience is, if you charge internally for the storage consumption, then are suddenly many hard requirement not so hard anymore… 😎

And yes, I agree, some legal requirements make no really sense. perhaps you have the date after all these years, but do you have machines and software to read them and work with them?

If you charge for the service, why not good for you, but it is abnormal if the business application uses the backup as an archive. There is a small problem of application architecture.

So the IT department and team that does the backups, file servers, storage, servers shouldn’t be in charge of the data archives and retention? Even though we use the backup software of Veeam, TSM and cloud storage, and no one else even has credentials to do so?

We are not an MSP, this is our data. The law is that we have to keep it. we are paying for this, not charging. 

 

It’s quite normal in our circumstances to have crazy retention. 

 

I just want it off prod as easy as possible and into Wasabi and tape as the chances of needed to restore it get smaller every year. It still doesn’t change it’s mandated by law. 

 

 

 

If you charge for the service, why not good for you, but it is abnormal if the business application uses the backup as an archive. There is a small problem of application architecture.

Wow, it doesn’t make sense… Sometimes reason does not prevail over intriguing customer demand, i don’t want to be in a brain of a DPO who asks for this.

Some of it has to do with criminal activity so the legal requirements are set by government. It does make sense once you are on this side, but it’s difficult because every year data gets bigger and bigger

 

Wow, it doesn’t make sense… Sometimes reason does not prevail over intriguing customer demand, i don’t want to be in a brain of a DPO who asks for this.

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