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Scott
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Wow, it doesn’t make sense… Sometimes reason does not prevail over intriguing customer demand, i don’t want to be in a brain of a DPO who asks for this.

Some of it has to do with criminal activity so the legal requirements are set by government. It does make sense once you are on this side, but it’s difficult because every year data gets bigger and bigger

 

BertrandFR
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If you charge for the service, why not good for you, but it is abnormal if the business application uses the backup as an archive. There is a small problem of application architecture.

Scott
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If you charge for the service, why not good for you, but it is abnormal if the business application uses the backup as an archive. There is a small problem of application architecture.

So the IT department and team that does the backups, file servers, storage, servers shouldn’t be in charge of the data archives and retention? Even though we use the backup software of Veeam, TSM and cloud storage, and no one else even has credentials to do so?

We are not an MSP, this is our data. The law is that we have to keep it. we are paying for this, not charging. 

 

It’s quite normal in our circumstances to have crazy retention. 

 

I just want it off prod as easy as possible and into Wasabi and tape as the chances of needed to restore it get smaller every year. It still doesn’t change it’s mandated by law. 

 

 

 

JMeixner
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If you charge for the service, why not good for you, but it is abnormal if the business application uses the backup as an archive. There is a small problem of application architecture.

So the IT department and team that does the backups, file servers, storage, servers shouldn’t be in charge of the data archives and retention? Even though we use the backup software of Veeam, TSM and cloud storage, and no one else even has credentials to do so?

We are not an MSP, this is our data. The law is that we have to keep it. we are paying for this, not charging. 

 

It’s quite normal in our circumstances to have crazy retention. 

 

I just want it off prod as easy as possible and into Wasabi and tape as the chances of needed to restore it get smaller every year. It still doesn’t change it’s mandated by law. 

 

 

 

OK, my experience is, if you charge internally for the storage consumption, then are suddenly many hard requirement not so hard anymore… 😎

And yes, I agree, some legal requirements make no really sense. perhaps you have the date after all these years, but do you have machines and software to read them and work with them?

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Scott
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The growth is exponential too. Just think how much video is created from peoples NVR systems, Wyze cameras etc. When crimes happen, those all have to get added to the case and kept for a long long time. Now we have 4k, 8k video.   what's next, 16k? 32k? holograms? haha It will happen.

 

Storage requirements get larger and more expensive. Cloud companies are laughing these days and are all for it to.

 

At the end of the day, I am a hands on specialist and can only give so much advice/direction which I have many times. I will do as I am told so my employer will continue to employee me. 

 

It’s a good thing I have a lot of tape storage. but every few years switching LTO generations means migrating it, Restores can get tedious. but at this rate, cloud and object storage for something that is going to be that old are not worth it. 

 

 

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