Poll : immutable object storage appliances


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Hi all,

This week no top-10 or top-15 or a best practice from me, but a poll this time ;-)

Since object-storage is more and more interesting for putting backups onto, I want to implement object-storage appliances using SOBR capacity tier at our biggest customers and also on our VCC infrastructure. This especially for having an airgapped/immutable copy of the primary backups.

Requirements it must meet, are : 

  • it has to be IMMUTABLE object-strorage, so implementing the object-lock functionality
  • it needs to be VEEAM READY (must be on the list Veeam Alliance Partner Technical Programs)
  • it has to be an appliance (so no need to use Linux CLI, but just a user-friendly web-interface, an all-in-one box, all included)
  • easy scalable
  • cost-effective

I think on Cloudian, Nutanix and Quantum object storage appliances.

What is your personal expericence with those and others regarding : 

  • cost-effective?
  • easy scalable - modular?
  • what is the minimum setup? number of appliances?
  • what is the minimum storage?
  • experience with support cases?
  • sustainable?
  • advantages - disadvantages?
  • Possible to use as object-storage for immutable SOBR capacity tier in combination with object-storage for VBO365 ?
  • what is included - exluded in the price?

Thx for you feedback!

 

regards

Nico


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Good luck @Mildur 

Thanks, i have all the veeam powershell commands and aws cli commands for creating buckets on the s3 storage.

Building them together to a working script is the interesting part :D

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Good luck @Mildur 

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Never though of that, @vNote42 

Our new hardware Cloudian was already ordered in May.

Today i have begun to build a POC with a virtual cloudian installation (Trial).

It works very good, installation process was very easy.

Now I have to create a script for on onboarding all of our customers (dedicated SOBR for each customer for easier billing process)

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Because we have a good chance to get S3 support for primary backup target: does any of you think about commodity hardware running a “filer”-OS supporting S3 for production?

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Thx @Chris.Childerhose  and @BertrandFR for your feedback!

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Hello, we’r in contact for object storage with quantum. There is some news functionnalities to active scale with tiering on tape library.  It will look like more glacier on prem.

The airgap part is in redesign, we struggle to have security validation from French information system security agency for object storage vs tape.

I’m wondering, are there people who implemented minio on physical server with large storage?

This sounds interesting with Quantum storage. Might need to look at this one too.

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Hello, we’r in contact for object storage with quantum. There is some news functionnalities to active scale with tiering on tape library.  It will look like more glacier on prem.

The airgap part is in redesign, we struggle to have security validation from French information system security agency for object storage vs tape.

I’m wondering, are there people who implemented minio on physical server with large storage?

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@Nico Losschaert : Thanks for the share buddy !

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We use Cloudian as our primary one currently.  We are working towards implementing HCP Cloud Scale by Hitachi as well but tests are not going too well at the moment.  We are also testing MinIO as well in a small cluster.

We do offer an object storage also that does S3 to Tape in the backend to get data offsite and offline as well for vaulting.

I have tested at home Backblaze as I have storage there and Wasabi which both work very well with Veeam but those are not on-prem solutions.

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thx @Mildur , like you are more or less in the same boat. We will first put a copy of VCC on the object storage, then normally migrate VBO365 from Azure to the object storage (indeed not yet immutable, I asked during VEEAMON 2021, but not yet a date - first a copy job in VBO365 will be available soon) and then BaaS as immutable capacity tier for the tenant ;-)

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We will take our first steps in to the s3 object storage world with Cloudian. 

I don‘t have it yet, it should be delivered soon.

it will be easy scalable if we need another Node. But the space should be enough for a few years.

It will be a target for our hosted vcc, vbr and vbo365. Each customer will get it‘s own bucket. Object lock can be enabled on bucket level. One disadvantage, Vbo365 doesn‘t have immutability.

 

I can‘t tell about the cost-effectiv. This is something for our product managers :)

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