Can we copy a backup copy job?


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Yes, Veeam can! (sorry for this pun)

Question arose today and I thought this is could be interesting to share: Is it possible to copy a backup copy job? So can a backup copy job use a backup copy job as source job? Yes and no. It is not possible to select the copy backup job directly. But it is possible to select the repository, the (second) copy job searches for backup data.

 

How to create a copy copy job:

Start the New Backup Copy Job wizard and enter a name. Here it is required to use Periodic copy (pruning) Copy mode! Note: Source copy backup job can also use Immediate copy (mirroring) mode.

 

On next step, press Add… → From backups... 
 

and select the job you want to copy second time.

It is important to do so, otherwise, selected source repository (next step) will be ignored!

Press Source… and select the repository, the first copy job uses as target. This is the repository this copy job will read backups from.

 

The rest of the wizard can be configured as desired. 

In joblog you see the source repository, copy is made from:

 


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@Nico Losschaert

After the upgrade to V12 you can edit this legacy jobs (pre-V12) and add new VMs to process. They behave the same as in a V11 environment and are fully manageable. 

We will reintroduce the copy from copy option to the new V12 backup copy jobs in a future update.

 

If you have a new deployment where you need such copy jobs, maybe you can start with V11a, configure all jobs as required and then do the upgrade to V12.

Thanks,

Fabian

Thx @Mildur for your perfect feedback!

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@Nico Losschaert 

After the upgrade to V12 you can edit this legacy jobs (pre-V12) and add new VMs to process. They behave the same as in a V11 environment and are fully manageable. 

We will reintroduce the copy from copy option to the new V12 backup copy jobs in a future update.

 

If you have a new deployment where you need such copy jobs, maybe you can start with V11a, configure all jobs as required and then do the upgrade to V12.

Thanks,

Fabian

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@vNote42 Yes. It will not be available for new backup copy jobs in V12 GA.

Backup copy jobs from V10/V11 should keep working in V12. But newly created V12 image backup copy jobs won’t be able to use backup copies as a source.

 

Thanks,

Fabian

Thx @Mildur for clarifying this. I know that I have used this for 1 customer as follows, so it’s very important not to delete the existing copy-job.

If some settings are changed in the existing copy-job, will that change the behaviour also when upgrading to version 12?

  • hypervisors and backup-server are located in a datacenter
  • so backup-jobs are running at the datacenter to the primary repository at the datacenter
  • an immediate copy job is being used to copy the backups to the HQ of the customer over a VPN-connection to the secondary repository
  • a periodic copy job is being used to copy the backups on the secondary repository (setup in the sources as described by @vNote42  to rotated USB disks to have a offline copy)

So, that will be a problem when the customer upgrades to version 12?

 

So better is waiting when Veeam implements that feature I presume?

 

thx

 

 

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There are no concerns. They are still backups where you can restore as normal.

Just as a note, V12 won‘t allow doing backup copies from a backup copy job because of the copy job changes.

We will bring the feature back, but we don‘t have an ETA.

 

Thanks,

Fabian

Thanks for the heads up on this. Great to know!

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@vNote42 Yes. It will not be available for new backup copy jobs in V12 GA.

Backup copy jobs from V10/V11 should keep working in V12. But newly created V12 image backup copy jobs won’t be able to use backup copies as a source.

 

Thanks,

Fabian

Thank you!

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@vNote42 Yes. It will not be available for new backup copy jobs in V12 GA.

Backup copy jobs from V10/V11 should keep working in V12. But newly created V12 image backup copy jobs won’t be able to use backup copies as a source.

 

Thanks,

Fabian

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There are no concerns. They are still backups where you can restore as normal.

Just as a note, V12 won‘t allow doing backup copies from a backup copy job because of the copy job changes.

We will bring the feature back, but we don‘t have an ETA.

 

Thanks,

Fabian

Did I get you right, this feature is not available in V12 GA? What will happen when a VBR with such settings is upgraded? 

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Nice trick , thank for the share :)

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There are no concerns. They are still backups where you can restore as normal.

Just as a note, V12 won‘t allow doing backup copies from a backup copy job because of the copy job changes.

We will bring the feature back, but we don‘t have an ETA.

 

Thanks,

Fabian

What’s the concern of restore VM when I need to restore from copy copy repository to vSphere 

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Nice post!

Do you recommend this feature for hot and cool backup in two distinct repositories?

Most often, I use backup copy jobs to copy backups from one site to another and vice versa. Then I use the original backup files as source. But for a copy to a third location, this is a great way to not block primary backup files during copy - often through slower uplinks.

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Nice post!

Do you recommend this feature for hot and cool backup in two distinct repositories?

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Great post, I’ve seen this question in the R&D forums quite a few times. Thank you for sharing.

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Thanks for this, it’ll help me for sure

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VEEAM needs some tricks for some functions… :smiley::smiley::smiley:

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ohhhh… excellent :thumbsup: sure this content will be in the recap ...

 

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